just go on polling, right, but polling is also -- you ask people what should be cut, 79% say don't cut medicare at all and i think that lots of things, democrats and republicans have said, that is on the table too. you don't always necessarily follow the polls when you listen to the president who was on bloomberg yesterday, here's what he said about meeting with speaker boehner. let's play that. >> speaker boehner was here at the white house last night for a christmas party. the two of you didn't even speak. what's it going to take to get the two of you in a room to hash this out? >> well, speaker boehner and i speak frequently and, you know, i think the issue -- >> when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> you know, i don't think that the issue right now has do with sitting in a room. >> so, essentially stephanie, is the scenario this, the tax cuts will expire so the tax cuts -- the taxes are going to go up on everybody, right? the fiscal cliff, you go over the cliff, the taxes go up for every single person. is the plan then if you do a deal for taxes on the middle class, then de facto t